Episode 214

Mastering Influence: Robert Cialdini's Seven Principles for Speakers (part 1)

Mastering Influence: Dr. Cialdini's Seven Principles for Speakers (part 1)

Summary

This episode introduces Dr. Robert Cialdini's seven key principles of influence and persuasion, which are crucial for anyone looking to enhance their persuasive abilities, especially as public speakers. The principles covered include scarcity, authority, social proof, liking, reciprocity, consistency, and the added principle of unity. The episode specifically focuses on the principle of scarcity, its application, and how to use it effectively and ethically in public speaking scenarios. The host discusses practical examples and warns against the misuse of these principles, emphasising the importance of integrity in maintaining audience trust.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Influence and Persuasion

01:30 Overview of Dr. Cialdini's Seven Principles

06:14 Deep Dive into Scarcity

09:03 Effective Use of Scarcity in Speaking

09:44 Maintaining Integrity with Scarcity

12:03 Practical Tips for Speakers

14:39 Conclusion and Next Steps

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Transcript
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There are some key principles to influence that really anyone who's

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interested in being more influential and

persuasive should know, and they come

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to us through some amazing work by Dr.

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Robert Cialdini.

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And you may have already come

across his book, influence the

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Psychology of Persuasion where

these principles are contained.

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Welcome to present influence these

show for professional communicators who

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want to impact, influence, and inspire

with their talks and presentations.

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My name's John Ball, keynote

and communications coach on your

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guide on this journey to mastery

level communication skills.

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It never ceases to amaze me that I have

experts in influence come onto my podcast.

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Who have never heard of Robert Cialdini

and his principles of influence and

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persuasion, and so it may be the case

that you haven't heard of them before

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or that you have come across them.

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What I've been planning to do for a while

now is to run a series on influence and

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persuasion skills, starting with Dr.

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Cialdini's seven principles because

it has been expanded since the

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original book and some of the

additional principles that he teaches.

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As well as things like tools of

rhetoric, logical fallacies, and

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other aspects that affect our ability

to be influential and persuasive.

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We'll look at the key elements of

charisma for being on platforms

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particularly, and we are gonna be

relating all of this to you being on

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stage as a speaker, because generally

you don't hear about these principles

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being applied specifically to the world

of professional or public speaking.

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So in this video, I want to introduce you

to all of the seven principles, and then

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we will start on the very first one today,

and we'll continue those in this series.

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The first principle from Dr.

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Cialdini's book influenced the

psychology of persuasion is scarcity.

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So we're gonna come to what scarcity is

all about in just a moment and how it's

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relevant and applicable for speakers.

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But the other six principles

are authority seeming like you.

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The expert that you know

what you are talking about.

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I guess that you look the path,

that you seem like somebody

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who should be where you are.

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In the same way that doctors often

wear white coats and you identify

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that they're medical professionals.

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Not everybody wearing a white

coat is necessarily a medical

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professional, social proof.

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As a speaker, you might wanna be talking

about people who you've worked with, where

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you've helped them get great results.

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Most of us will have these kinds of things

on our websites with our demo reels.

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Showing places where we've actually gone

and done some speaking crowd reactions,

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maybe even some direct feedback from

people who've been attending our events

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from our bookers, that kind of thing.

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Social proof liking is another one.

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We tend to like people

who like us, people.

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Having people like you

is really important.

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As a speaker, you're probably never gonna

have everybody like you, but there are

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things you can do to help increase the

likelihood of people liking you, and

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we'll talk about that in another episode.

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Reciprocity would be another one

where you are essentially giving

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people something for free and then

they in some way feel that they need

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to give you something back as well.

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Now, that's something you would

maybe think has to be of value.

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Chad said not so much.

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However, I'll say this, we are, you

know, before, before we even get to

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that episode, we are all very used

to having things with free giveaways,

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and they mean less and less to us.

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And we don't always feel the need

to reciprocate when we've received

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something free as an online gift

or an additional bonus in our

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package or anything like that.

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So.

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If you're gonna use this, you have

to think about ways that you can

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give and give something of value,

something that will actually

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generate that feeling of, that.

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The principle of reciprocity

does still really work, even to

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some degree when we've become a

little, a little more immune to it.

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Consistency is a really

important one as well.

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If you are the kind of person who

always says that you're gonna do this,

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and you do things this way and this

is what you are about, and then your

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actions tell people the opposite,

it's gonna be hard to stay consistent.

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I'm talk a little bit about consistency

in relation to scarcity as well.

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In this episode, people want to know

that they can trust what you're gonna

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say and that you'll follow through,

and it gives them a level of safety.

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So this is really important

for you as a speaker.

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If one day you show up on stage and

you are super high energy and people

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are up and jumping around, but the next

day you're kind of low energy, you're

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exhausted, you're on a bit of a downer,

and your audience is, you know what's

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going on, you, you're not the, don't seem

like the same person you were yesterday.

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Perhaps more commonly.

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People who really just turn it

all on when they get on the stage.

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Everything is just the performance.

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And that's not even really who they are.

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They are the actors of the industry.

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The people who can turn on

the charm when it matters.

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They can deliver and they can go on stage.

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And yeah, people maybe want a bit of that.

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We don't want it to be

that who we are on stage.

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Is completely different to who we are

off stage, and I'll talk more about

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this when we get to this episode,

but I certainly have known people who

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were great on stage, great presenters,

great speakers, and off stage, could

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barely even say a word to anybody.

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Really socially awkward and

very difficult to work with.

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And then other people who are great on

stage, great presence and off stage.

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They're still the same person, but

just with the dials turned down a bit

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and they're a bit more, now they're

able to do the one-to-one stuff and

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just be more human with it as well.

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And I think that's a much better

and cohesive and integrated

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way to approach the speaking.

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So those are the seven principles of

influence, persuasion, according to Dr.

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Robert Cialdini.

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So scarcity authority, social proof,

liking, reciprocity, consistency.

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And, uh, as there was one more unity.

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So if you can make your audience feel

like you're all together and part of

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the group, and this is a great one for

speakers to be able to do, and this is

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the newer one that got added on later

in the revised book, making us feel like

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a collective unit of people is a great

way to have people not just liking it,

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but to have more influence as well.

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So many things can help you as a

speaker with doing that storytelling,

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humor to hypnotic language and

activities with your audience.

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There's so many things you can

do there that can help people

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to feel like a cohesive group in

your presentations and workshops.

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So that's gonna be a fun episode

when we get to it as well.

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But let's get to what

we are here for today.

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We're talking about scarcity,

the first of the principles.

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Now, this essentially means.

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Scarce resources are often in high demand,

and you will have come across this.

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You may have even used this

principle in offers you've made

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online for services or products.

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And so one of the common ways we see

coaches using this is for maybe you're

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gonna just have five spaces available

for people to come and join your program.

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Now here's what I'll say with this.

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A lot of people abuse

the scarcity principle.

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So everything suddenly becomes scarce.

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I used to see this a lot more

impersonal development events.

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I don't know if it still goes on because

those events happen a lot less, and I

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would imagine it still does, although

I think mostly people have moved away

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from that format in those events.

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But you would see the speaker from the

stage saying, the first 10 people to go

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to the back are gonna get this, and the

first hundred people are gonna get this

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price once we're past a hundred people.

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It's gonna go back to the normal

price, suddenly you have a rush to

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the back of the room because everyone

thinks they want this product.

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And some of it have seen it actually

being something as crappy as jars

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to put money into and label up.

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And people were paying probably

more than the jars were worth.

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But it seemed like such

a good offer at the time.

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Well, um, I'm not so sure

and I didn't rush to the back

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of the room with that one.

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Call me cynical that when this is

used, well it can be really powerful.

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So.

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When something is hard to come by,

it has a higher price and it should

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do, for example, for example, if

you have, uh, a, an old vinyl record

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collection, which you may have

held onto more sensibly than I did.

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'cause I let mine go mostly

other than a few albums.

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Um, and that has now come back

and people are collecting this

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and trying to get back their old

vinyls or trying to find old stuff.

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You may find you have some vinyls in your

collection that are worth a lot of money

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because they're hard to come by now.

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They're probably not being remade.

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They may not even be on CD or on Spotify,

and so that makes them even higher value.

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I.

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I can remember being on a flight one

time with a guy who was a big Bjork fan.

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I, I like Bjork and I have a lot of

her stuff, but I had some promotional

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stuff of hers that I didn't really

think was worth anything much.

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One of them had come with, uh, the evening

standard in the uk free newspaper in the,

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in London and another, it was a poster

that had come with one of the albums.

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He was telling me that those things are

so hard to come by and Bjo fans going

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mad for them, that that would actually

potentially be worth hundreds of pounds.

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Wow.

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Blew me away.

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I, I still didn't do much about that,

but that's the power of scarcity.

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Now, from the stage, it may be that if

you have a product or a service that you

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are offering to people, you want to give

some level of scarcity to that as well.

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So you want to give some encouragement.

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Now might be more relevant to people

who are doing sales from the stage.

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It probably is.

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But even if you're not doing direct

sales, even if you're trying to encourage

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people to another event or to join

your email list or something like that,

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which is very common for speakers to

do, give them an incentive to do so.

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So for example, if you join my email

list within the next 12 hours, I'm

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gonna give you, not just this, but

an additional bonus, and that's only

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gonna be there for the next 12 hours.

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The important part is if you,

if you announce scarcity, you

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need to follow through with it.

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You absolutely need to

follow through with it.

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So if you announce scarcity, you

absolutely need to follow through with it.

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And that means that you can't just

say that you are going to only have

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five places available and then still

take the sixth, seventh, eighth,

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ninth person, and so on, because

that is outside of your integrity.

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And here, what I want you to.

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Fall outside of your integrity.

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If you have an offer and you say it's

only gonna be available for 24 hours,

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and someone comes back after 48 hours and

that offer's still available to them, or

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they call you up and say, Hey, it's not

available anymore, but can I still get it?

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And you let them have it, you

are out of your integrity.

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They didn't take action in

the time that you gave them.

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So you, you can say, look,

I'll put you on a wait list for

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the next time we do an offer.

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Or you can do the original prize or,

hey, maybe there's another offer, maybe

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there's something else we can do for

you here, but to stay in your integrity

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so that people can trust your word and

don't just, you may have this as well.

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I mean, if you, if you subscribe

to something like Audible,

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like I do audiobooks, there is

almost always a sale on Audible.

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It's almost never not a sale on Audible.

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There is no scarcity to that.

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There is no urgency to it.

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You know that there, even if you

don't buy something within the

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current sale, there's gonna be

another sale coming up just after it.

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There's no urgency with that.

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Almost defeats the point of having sales

other than just like internal sales.

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So what really is the point of that?

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Well, they can do it and it

doesn't really matter to them.

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They don't need to create the urgency.

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But for us, we do need that

urgency and that's what we're

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taking advantage of with scarcity.

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So if the urgency isn't real and

you regularly make offers where the

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urgency isn't real and the scarcity

is fake, people are gonna wise up to

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that and they're not gonna trust it.

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So they're not gonna react with urgency

to your offers 'cause they're gonna, well

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you say, you know, I have told Midnight

to do this, but I know that if I go onto

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your website in a few days, you're gonna

let me have it at that price anyway.

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That is not good, I suppose.

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Um, that's what I want is steer you

away from when it comes to scarcity.

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Another way, look, another

way that you could potentially

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use this from the platform.

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If you're delivering a keynote or any kind

of presentation workshop of the, like,

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you might wanna say, Hey, look, I'm gonna

be available to, to chat with you, answer

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any questions you have outside of this.

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Anyone who wants to talk one-to-one,

anyone who's may be interested in

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working with me or finding out more,

I'm gonna stick around here for.

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Maybe an hour afterwards.

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So come and find me.

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Let's grab a coffee, let's have a

chat, whatever you want to do, and

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actually do that and stick around.

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And then when your time is up, when,

when the hour is up, say, look,

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hey look, I really do have to go.

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You know, unless you've got, unless you've

just suddenly done it, this massive cure,

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people, even then I think I would probably

go and maybe start handing out business

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cards or go another way to get in touch

with you to set up some meetings, some

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follow up calls, some discovery calls,

whatever it is that you want to do that.

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That's probably how I would do it.

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Encourage people to take that action.

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There is a limited time in which

they can do that, and you have

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invited them, you've given them

permission to come and speak to you.

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You've actively encouraged

it and that is probably where

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you're gonna get extra referrals.

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It's, and certainly would encourage

you to say, um, Hey look, this actually

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is a great idea if, um, if you are

looking specifically to get referrals,

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and you should be as a professional

speaker, you should be doing that.

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Then saying that if you know

another company or organization

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that would be interested in this

topic, come see me afterwards.

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So you could then say, my calendar

is really filling up right now.

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However, I've still got some

spaces available in there

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for people who act fast.

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So you are.

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Giving them that urgency, and you

are encouraging the people who may be

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able say, yeah, maybe they would be

good fit for that, but I don't know.

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I know.

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Maybe I should speak to them first.

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You need to encourage the

urgency and the fast action.

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They come and connect with you,

at least have made the connection.

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You can put them into your CRM,

you can follow up with them.

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You can have your discovery call.

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That is a good way to use scarcity.

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Now, if your calendar is completely

wide open, then I'll leave it

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to you as to how you feel about

that with your own integrity.

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You could actually just say it in a

way that makes it sound like there

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is some scarcity there of, I have

some spaces available on my calendar.

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I don't know how long

they're gonna be there for.

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That's not a lie.

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It is not, it's not.

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There's maybe, uh, manipulating the truth

a little bit there, but it's not a lie.

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So I would maybe express it a little

more like that if you don't have any

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bookings on your calendar right now, so

that you can still feel well, you know,

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in my integrity, and I'm giving you the

impression that I don't have that much

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availability, that I'm in high demand.

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These are good ways to use scarcity.

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I hope one has been useful for you.

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Are you gonna use any of these principles?

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Let me know in the chat.

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Leave me a comment.

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You can either do that on our YouTube

channel, which I am building up

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the YouTube channel at the moment.

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You'll see there's a lot of more

tailored to YouTube content going

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out there, and things have been

really taking off on YouTube lately.

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So do content drawings there.

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You can comment on the videos.

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Please do, of course, like share,

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And if you are a Spotify listener.

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You can leave comments on

the shows now on Spotify.

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Please do feel free to do that.

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Maybe have a question about scarcity

or influence and persuasion principles,

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maybe about speaking on stage.

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If you want to know more about

working with me personally,

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then visit present influence.com

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and by all means, check out

the enormous back catalog of

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episodes, expert interviews on

solo shows, on present influence.

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There's a lot of good information

there and I hope you'll enjoy it.

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Next week we'll be taking

a look at the next of Dr.

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Robert Cialdini's influence principles.

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Hope you'll join me for that and

have an amazing rest of your day.

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John Ball

John Ball is a keynote coach and professional speaker on a mission to help upcoming leaders master their communication, create impact and stand out as experts in their field.
John left the high life of his flying career to do something more meaningful to him and has since worked with several leading personal and professional development organisations as a lead coach and trainer.
The heart of everything John does involves helping people shift to personal responsibility and conscious awareness of how they show up and perform in every situation, whilst equipping them with the tools to be exceptional.
John also co-hosts The Coaching Clinic Podcast with his great friend and colleague Angie Besignano.
He lives in the beautiful city of Valencia, Spain with his husband and often visits the UK and US for speaking and training engagements. When he's not speaking or podcasting, he's likely to be out swimming, kayaking or enjoying time with friends.

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